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    Has NSA and CIA infiltrated Kali Linux like it did with Windows, etc?

    Has NSA and CIA infiltrated Kali Linux like it did with Windows, etc? What safeguards are in place to foil such an attempt?

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    It is not kali-linux that you need to worry about it is your firmware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmusket33 View Post
    It is not kali-linux that you need to worry about it is your firmware.

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    Firmware of what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xorslideshow View Post
    Firmware of what?
    of everything including wifi toaster in the kitchen
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    Interesting topic

    The US government does seem to have its tentacles in a lot of places these days. But I have faith that the Kali team takes care to keep the repos free of tampering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grid View Post
    Interesting topic
    Yes it is.


    systemd ...

    Debian 8: Linux’s most reliable distro makes its biggest change since 1993
    The controversial "systemd" comes to an OS known for stability.
    http://arstechnica.com/information-t...ge-since-1993/


    Is systemd really an attempt of NSA to corrupt GNU distributions?
    https://muchweb.me/systemd-nsa-attempt/

    Ignoring for the moment the various technical problems with systemd, I have my suspicions that its provenance and scope are cause for alarm.

    Systemd comes from Red Hat. Red Hat, in the Linux world, is the company with the largest ties to the US government and the various state security organizations around the world–including NSA. The US government (DoD) is Red Hat’s number one customer. Red Hat also happens to be Lennart Poettering’s employer.

    The Linux kernel, I believe, is clean. As long as Linus lives, you’re not going to subvert the kernel. Let’s just assume that is true for the sake of argument. If you can’t get into the kernel, what is your next option? You need something low level (PID 1?), ubiquitous, and vast in scope and complexity.

    This describes systemd perfectly. It was almost like it was designed to touch as much of a Linux system as possible. It has hooks into some many different subsystems and APIs that it’s almost impossible to build a modern distro with current software without pulling in systemd as a dependency. This happened almost overnight, and I think there are malicious forces at work here.

    We must remember Heart Bleed. Heart Bleed appeared to be an innocent mistake, and it was a tiny typo in one line of a C program. If it’s possible to do that much damage with a tiny little error, imagine when you have an attack surface as wide as systemd, written in a language like C that is almost designed to produce security holes when not written absolutely perfectly–and humans are not absolutely perfect programmers.

    Systemd is dangerous. It’s too big to be audited as quickly as its developed. It’s complexity adds as much attack surface to a Linux system as the kernel itself. We can’t get away from these facts. Shitfighting about init systems is a waste of our time. Sytemd is horrible because of where it comes from and how complex it is. Backdoors will be hidden in it.

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